Frequently Asked Questions
4. General Questions

 

Date Added   Question and Answer
11/01/06  

Here are three ways to enter/maintain leading zeros in Excel:

If you haven't entered the data yet, you can format the entire column as text (Select the column, then Format > Cells > Select "Number" tab, then under "Category," select "Text"). Ignore the "Number stored as text" warning that Excel puts on the cell.

You can also enter or fix items with leading zeros one at a time by putting an apostrophe in front of the item. (This is another way to store digits as text.)

Before or after entering data, you can format the whole column to fill in the leading zeros. For example, for public school STNs (which have must have nine digits), select the column, then Format > Cells > Select "Number" tab, then under "Category," select "Custom" and a box labeled "Type" will appear; enter nine zeros there: 000000000. (For a three-character numbers such as Field 10 "Service Site" in the DOE-SE, you would enter three zeros: 000.)

NOTE: Opening a comma-delimited file (CSV) in Excel is usually not a good idea: If you open a CSV file in Excel, it will automatically remove leading zeros from your numbers (including STN, social security numbers, dates, and grades). If there are problems in your CSV data file that you need to correct, either go back to your original Excel data file or open your file in Word or Notepad. (You may need to save the file from Word or Notepad as TXT, but that extension won't be a problem - you can still submit as comma delimited.

 
08/11/06  

The final field in the DOE-ISTEPBAR data layout is Language Minority Status (field 17). There are one or two issues you should be aware of related to this field:

Issue 1
Please review the Data Layout instructions for this field carefully. The options listed are (1) Fluent/FEP and (2) Limited/LEP; note, however, that these apply only to students who have been identified as Language Minority (LM) students. For most students (i.e., non-LM students), this field will be blank.

Issue 2 (only if you are preparing your DOE-ISTEPBAR file in Excel)
Because the Language Minority field is the final item in each record and in most instances will be left intentionally blank, there is a high likelihood of problems in converting your Excel file to the comma-delimited (CSV) file format. Excel often experiences difficulty knowing how many commas to put in each row when the cell at the end is empty. This can result in the error message, File line [#] does not contain the correct number of data elements.” (A “data element” is the same as a cell in a spreadsheet.)

The simplest solution to this problem is to put an apostrophe (') - also know as a single quotation mark - in any cell in the last column (The "LM" column) that is intentionally left blank. (Tip: If the records with blank LM fields are all grouped together, you can put one apostrophe in the first row and copy it down.) This will tell Excel to fill in the comma to indicate a blank item at the end. (Note that you will not be able to see the apostrophe in the worksheet but if you go to the cell, you can see it in the formula editing bar.)

 
02/03/06 Q

On my school's homepage that records Data Submission - Records Submitted -Days Until Due, everything was up to day and showing ok.  Suddenly the Programs & Services collection year 2006, Period 1 says "Most Recent Files Has Errors" I haven't sent anything in a long time - don't know why this popped up.  I'm not able to find anything to tell me why this error message is showing up. 

  A

This is a correct error message but was not showing on your scoreboard properly. If you check the results of the file transfer for the last file submitted for PS period 1, you will see it does have failed records. It was submitted on the 26 along with other files for the same collection and period but processed on the 28th of October. It was processed by the STN team, because of an error that needed our attention. When posting information to the scoreboard we were looking at the created date instead of the processed date. We have just made the correction to the scoreboard in January.

 
01/04/06 Q

Our schools offer an after-school, voluntary Gifted and Talented program.  Do I need to report students that volunteer to attend this after-school program in the second phase of the PS report?

  A

Schools should only count the students that go through their formal identification process and are found eligible to participate in their g/t programming. 

 
06/22/05 Q I have uploaded both my PS and AT data. The PS shows just fine, but the AT report is still showing "Red" on the Application Center homepage. When I attempt to sign-off on the PS and AT reports I get an error message as follows:

Unable to sign-off because an unknown error occurred. Please contact a DOE Administrator if this problem persists.

  A You will not be able to sign-off on these reports until the collection period is over.
 
05/25/05 Q

This year the Doe-Dc, version 05.13.05, requires a STN for each student. I believe you guys have suggested in the past that we should not assign a STN number to a new student to Indiana Schools because the student may no show up at the beginning of school. I have told our staff this on several occasions. This report, as it now stands, will force us to assign new STN numbers to future students. Is the STN number necessary for this report? If you could, please respond quickly to this question. School ends on June 3rd. I will have to instruct our staff, before they leave for the year, to assign new numbers to our future kindergarten students or any other new student to Indiana that is scheduled to attend our corporation next year.

 

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By now all students in Indiana have an assigned STN number. An STN Lookup for students that pre-register should still be performed. You can locally assign an stn to a student, but you do not have to report this to the application center during the summer months when you will be submitting data for direct certification, we prefer that you report the stn numbers when the student enrolls in the fall or really does showup in the fall. The use of the STN number on the DOE-DC will enable continuous uploads and matches of students to the direct cert file. This was not possible in previous years. You may receive a warning that the STN does not exist in the application center, but the record will continue to process.

 
03/02/05 Q

In reviewing the DOE-AT instructions, you indicate we must complete the Certificate of Instructions Days form before we can submit data. I have these questions.

1. Will we be able to do the testing on June 1 without submitting the form. I think we were able to do this last year. Our school year is not completed till the end of the first week of June and so we can not complete the form until then. This would mean we could not do any testing.

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Yes you will be able to submit data. You will get an warning that your data was accepted but not complete until the CID is completed.

2. The instructions give a web site (see below) to go to get the form but when I go there, it says we must have the form turned in by June 15, 2004. This is last years form so when will the new form be available. Yes, that is last years form, this is where the form for 2004-2005 will be available.

 
02/23/05 Q

What are the submission dates for the 2004-2005 Attendance Report?

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Those dates are:

6/01/05 – 6/10/05 for AT trial submission, which will test for a successful file format and transfer
6/13/05 – 7/01/05 for Actual AT data submission

Please note that the following must be completed prior to submitting AT data:

1. Certification of Instructional Days, and
2. a current record in the DOE-PS for each student.

See the Attendance Report (DOE-AT) Data Layout on the STN site for more information.

 
10/29/04 Q How do I keep all 21 fields on the DOE-PS when I create the file in excel?
  A Place a 0 in field 21 by highlighting the field and then edit and do a replace. You can also put spaces in the field. This will keep 21 fields and will be accepted on the data transfer
 
07/13/04 Q

Almost all of my STNs have leading zeros which Excel wants to drop, so I add them back on this way:

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  • right-click on the column heading and choose Format Cells
  • on the Number tab, in the Category section, choose Custom (at the bottom)
  • in the Type section to the right, enter 000000000 (9 zeros) to force 9 digits in your number
  • click okay and Excel adds leading zeros as needed to make 9 digits

You can do the same thing to your School column to force 4 digits (enter 0000) if your schools have leading zeros.

You can also do this with the Birthdate column, entering mm/dd/yyyy for the Custom Type to make the dates look right.

 
06/15/04 Q Two functions that we would like to point out:
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1). When doing a lookup, you can click on the attendance tab to view what attendance data has been sent for that student as well as Pupil Enrollment and other tabs.

2). When a school number or school name is in blue, click on the number or name to get contact information.

 
08/23/04 Q Should in-school suspensions be counted as non-enrollment days the same as out-of-school suspension?
  A In-school suspensions are not non-enrollment days.
 
06/18/04 Q Do we have to attempt to fix the warnings in order to have a completed submission for AT?
  A You should verify that you are using the correct STN and that the data that you have reported is accurate .  After you have verified that the information is correct you can consider your data clean UNTIL July 15, 2004 when we will have a clean-up period.  You will need to check back at that time to ensure that there are no other errors that would cause conflict between your data and data from other schools that may not have been submitted when you completed your file transmissions.
 
06/15/04 Q The warning messages that you are receiving (STN number):
  A The message "This student was reported to be in attendance at school (school number) on October 1st, (year) but no Pupil Enrollment record was found in the same school" will require that you review the attendance data for accurate STN and school number data. If Pupil Enrollment was not submitted for this student at this school, please take notice of the reason it was not so that you do not make the same mistake on the next Pupil Enrollment. This warning message will continue to be produced until the close of the DOE-AT Collection, meaning when all data has been submitted, errors corrected, etc. At this time we will remove the warning so that your data transfer scoreboard is "Green" on attendance. Thank you for being patient with us during this collection period.
 
06/14/04 Q

I need to know how students attending alternative school should be listed in enrollment history.

  A For the SCHOOL HISTORY: If it is an alternative school, not just an alternative program, and the school submits stn lookup data, then the school history will reflect that the student is currently at that alternative school until another school submits stn lookup data for that student. For ENROLLMENT: If that student was physically at the alternative school on Oct 1, and that school submitted enrollment data, the PE record will have that school number of the alternative school.
 
06/09/04 Q

Is there a document that explains the requirements for private schools in regards to the several different data reports?

Private schools are by law exempt from AYP and it is confusing to understand our role in the school accountability process.  I can understand the necessity of keeping up to date on STNs for our students so they can be tracked in and out of the private/public systems, but I do not understand what our role is for such reports as the PE or the AT or the LM.

We want to stay on top of what is happening in the school improvement arena but we also want to use our limited resources in the most efficient way.

  A Accredited non-public schools, including Freeway school, are EXEMPT from supplying the following information: DOE-NE, Suspensions, and Expulsions.  However, the DOE-CE and DOE-CP reports are requested because this information is related to the legal standards that are to be met for accreditation purposes. All other data requested is required.
 
05/18/04 Q

Is there a way that you can keep our report submitted during the trial period if it is OK? The person responsible for submitting the report will be gone for the summer after that.

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Yes, please fax on letterhead to the STN Team at 317-233-6326, a request to keep the attendance data submitted during the trial period. You must copy and paste the Summary of Results section from the file transfer page. If the file transfer results in any errors the file will not be accepted for reprocessing. Please note, that if you have not submitted the Instructional Days, you will receive an error. An error free file transfer does not mean that the Attendance data is complete. The data for all schools will not be complete until the end of July.

The collection period allows schools with summer schedules and expanded school year to submit their current data. There will be a period for AT cleanup where dates of attendance at multiple schools overlap each other. Data sent on June 1 could interfere with data sent on June 30 and vice versa. This data will have to be corrected throughout the collection period and thereafter until the AT data for 2004-2005 is final. This will be the same process we recently completed, which required the correction of attendance data for students having more than 185 days of attendance and the missing attendance data for students submitted on the pupil enrollment report.

The submission of data and the accuracy of the data will be closely monitored. We will start contacting schools by email and phone by mid July. Please designate a primary and secondary contact for the Attendance collection on the Central Point of contact at http://www.doe.in.gov/htmls/doe_cpoc.html.

 
11/12/03 Q We have a student that wants to graduate on time with his class but lacks the necessary credits. He has enrolled for evening classes. That school reported him in there STN files. Isn't the home school the only school that needs to report that student?
  A The home school should send the stn lookup data for the student, not the evening school. The lookup is the place to find unique stn numbers for students. It has nothing to do with enrollment, attendance, etc. It should be the last known school where the student attended.
 
10/06/03 Q When I lookup a student, I see the ISTEP button, when I click on the button all I get is "There is ISTEP information for this school year". Should I be able to see the scores for this student?
  A This ISTEP area is associated with the STN number on the test from the PREVIOUS school year. Individual scores will not be made available.
 
unavailable Q

Can a listserv be developed for the person(s) responsible for submitting the data?

  A A listserv now exists called STN. To subscribe to the listserv go to: listserv.state.in.us/mailman/listinfo/stn
 
unavailable Q

With which vendors is the Department working and what problems will occur if they don't "come on board" in a timely fashion?

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The vendors of which the department is aware are listed at: www.doe.in.gov/stn/stnsis.html

We anticipate that all vendors will work hard to meet the expectations of the STNs project. As they report progress toward meeting critical objectives, it will be noted. We are particularly concerned with 1) vendors’ ability to accommodate the STNs as a part of their data bases; 2) vendors’ ability to report student data for ISTEP+ that will be the basis for the generation of test labels by the ISTEP+ contractor; ; and 3) vendors’ overall ability to communicate using XML methodologies. Progress in these three areas will be reported at the above address.

 
unavailable Q Do schools have to buy/pay for the software needed to run XML and what type of firewall setup will be needed for XML data exchange? Also if the conversion to XML isn't ready on-site, can you take the info in ASCII form?
  A Individual vendors may deal with this issue differently, but some are already SIF certified (Schools Interoperability Framework) and already offer XML data transfers. Check with your vendor for this information.
 
unavailable Q Can a school technology coordinator be included and kept informed of the information given to vendors to help prepare?
  A Yes. Please sign up for the STN listserv.
 
unavailable Q

What is your expectation of small schools that are not currently involved with a comprehensive student information electronic system?

 

  A It would be highly desirable for such schools to undertake promptly to develop a system. We anticipate that the capacity needed for a small school corporation to meet electronic requirements would require little more than a PC with internet access. However, we plan to develop fallback procedures to allow for this possibility.
 
unavailable Q Will all schools be required to have the STNs on transcripts?
  A The required contents of an Indiana transcript are determined by the State Board of Education, and official action will be required is this is to happen uniformly across the state. More research is needed before any recommendation might be made to the Board. This requirement is, however, a possibility.